Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/01/1995 01:40 PM House FIN

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                     HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                   
                          MARCH 1, 1995                                        
                            1:40 P.M.                                          
                                                                               
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  CALL TO ORDER                                                                
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Mark  Hanley  called the  House  Finance Committee                 
  meeting to order at 1:40 P.M.                                                
                                                                               
  PRESENT                                                                      
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley               Representative Kohring                         
  Co-Chair Foster               Representative Martin                          
  Representative Mulder         Representative Navarre                         
  Representative Brown          Representative Parnell                         
  Representative Grussendorf    Representative Therriault                      
  Representative Kelly                                                         
                                                                               
  ALSO PRESENT                                                                 
                                                                               
  Nancy Slagle, Director, Division of Budget Review, Office of                 
  Management  and Budget;  Mike Greany,  Director, Legislative                 
  Finance  Division;  Janet  Clarke,   Director,  Division  of                 
  Administrative  Services, Department  of  Health and  Social                 
  Services;    Arbe    Williams,    Director,   Division    of                 
  Administrative  Services,  Department  of  Labor; Guy  Bell,                 
  Director, Division of Administrative Services, Department of                 
  Commerce  and  Economic  Development;  Nico  Bus,  Director,                 
  Division of Administrative  Services, Department of  Natural                 
  Resources;    Ken    Bischoff,    Director,   Division    of                 
  Administrative  Services, Department  of Public  Safety; Ron                 
  Lind,   Director,   Division  of   Administrative  Services,                 
  Department  of Transportation  and  Public Facilities;  Gary                 
  Hayden, System  Director, Marine Highway  System, Department                 
  of  Transportation   and  Public   Facilities;  Karl   Ohls,                 
  Executive  Director,  Western  Alaska Fisheries  Development                 
  Association,   Anchorage;   Nels  Anderson   Jr.,  Executive                 
  Director,  Bristol  Bay  Economic  Development  Corporation;                 
  Eugene  Asicksik, Acting  Executive  Director, Norton  Sound                 
  Economic  Development  Corporation;  Ragnar  Alstrom,  Board                 
  Member, Yukon Delta Fisheries  Development Association; Fred                 
  Phillip, Board Member, Coastal Villages Fishing Cooperative;                 
  Agafon  Krukoff Jr., Executive  Director, Central Bering Sea                 
  Fishermen's   Association;   Justine   Gunderson,  Secretary                 
                                                                               
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  Treasurer,   Pribilof   Island  Fishermen;   Michael  Irwin,                 
  Commissioner, Department of Community and Regional  Affairs;                 
  Representative  John  Davies;   Senator  Lyda  Green;  Karen                 
  Perdue,  Commissioner,  Department  of   Health  and  Social                 
  Services; Del  Smith,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of                 
  Public  Safety;  Joe  Perkins, Commissioner,  Department  of                 
  Transportation  and  Public Facilities;  Wendy  Redman, Vice                 
  President for  University Relations,  University of  Alaska;                 
  Brian Saylor, Director,  Alaska Psychiatric Institute (API),                 
  Anchorage; Bob Baratko, Director, Division of Administrative                 
  Services, Department  of  Revenue;  Jerry  Shriner,  Special                 
  Assistant,  Office   of  the  Commissioner,   Department  of                 
  Corrections.                                                                 
                                                                               
  SUMMARY                                                                      
                                                                               
       PRESENTATION   BY   THE   WESTERN    ALASKA   COMMUNITY                 
       DEVELOPMENT                                                             
                           QUOTA PROGRAM                                       
                                                                               
  HB 137    An  Act  making  supplemental  appropriations  for                 
            operating expenses of state  government for fiscal                 
            year 1995; and providing for an effective date.                    
                                                                               
            HB  137   was  HELD  in   Committee  for   further                 
            consideration.                                                     
                                                                               
  HB 178    An   Act   making    supplemental   and    special                 
            appropriations   for   the   expenses   of   state                 
            government;  making  and   amending  capital   and                 
            operating  appropriations;  and  providing for  an                 
            effective date.                                                    
                                                                               
            HB   178  was   HELD  in  Committee   for  further                 
            consideration.                                                     
                                                                               
  PRESENTATION  BY  THE WESTERN  ALASKA  COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT                 
  QUOTA PROGRAM                                                                
                                                                               
  MICHAEL  IRWIN,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT  OF  COMMUNITY AND                 
  REGIONAL AFFAIRS, explained the Community Development  Quota                 
  (CDQ) program.  He remarked that the CDQ pollack program was                 
  instituted in December,  1992.  The North  Pacific Fisheries                 
  Management  Council approved the CDQ program  as part of the                 
  federal government's inshore/offshore allocation of pollack.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  He noted that  by the time  the CDQ pollack program  sunsets                 
  later  this year,  it  will  have  generated more  than  $80                 
  million  dollars  revenue for  those  regions and  will have                 
  created more than 800 jobs.  In 1994, the Council approved a                 
  halibut/sablefish CDQ program which will be worth $3 million                 
                                                                               
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  dollars annually.                                                            
                                                                               
  Mr. Irwin stated that the  CDQ pollack program is  scheduled                 
  to sunset  in December 1995 unless extended  by the Council.                 
  The Knowles Administration strongly supports continuation of                 
  the program.                                                                 
                                                                               
  The CDQ  pollack program is  a federal  program overseen  by                 
  three state agencies: the Department of Community & Regional                 
  Affairs, the Department  of Fish and Game and the Department                 
  of Commerce and  Economic Development.  The  National Marine                 
  Fisheries Service will provide the federal oversight.                        
                                                                               
  KARL OHLS,  EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  WESTERN  ALASKA  FISHERIES                 
  DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION (WAFDA),  ANCHORAGE, introduced  the                 
  directors  of  the CDQ  programs throughout  the State.   He                 
  reiterated  the  number  of  jobs  which have  been  created                 
  through the CDQ program for Western Alaska.  The program has                 
  generated over $40 million dollars  for those regions during                 
  the past 2.5 years.  He provided the Committee with a packet                 
  of information regarding the program.  [Attachment #1].                      
                                                                               
  NELS  ANDERSON JR, EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR, BRISTOL BAY ECONOMIC                 
  DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION (BBEDC), spoke to the success of the                 
  CDQ program  in  his area  which  began in  May,  1993.   He                 
  pointed out that the program has employed 194  people during                 
  the winter,  which  is  unprecedented,  as  most  employment                 
  occurs only in  the summertime  during the herring  fishery.                 
  He added that Oceantrawl, Inc. is the partner of BBEDC.  The                 
  corporation is  currently diversifying the  fishing industry                 
  for all the communities involved.  Mr. Anderson spoke to the                 
  academic scholarships provided to local students through the                 
  program.                                                                     
                                                                               
  JUSTINE  GUNDERSON,  SECRETARY TREASURER,  ALEUTIAN PRIBILOF                 
  ISLAND  DEVELOPMENT  ASSOCIATION   (APICDA),  informed   the                 
  Committee  of the communities  which comprise APICDA; Nelson                 
  Lagoon, St. George  Island, Atka, Nikolski, and  False Pass.                 
  The mission of APICDA is  to develop stable local  economies                 
  in the communities,  and to foster education,  training, and                 
  employment for local residents.                                              
                                                                               
  She added, APICDA's private  sector harvesting partners  are                 
  Trident  Seafoods  Corporation,  one  of  Alaska's   largest                 
  shoreside  processing  companies and  Starbound Partnership.                 
  The pollack CDQ  fishing activities have resulted  in little                 
  by-catch of salmon, crab, halibut, or herring.                               
                                                                               
  AGAFON KRUKOFF JR,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  CENTRAL BERING  SEA                 
  FISHERMEN'S  ASSOCIATION (CBSFA),  stated  that the  program                 
  provided St. Paul $750 thousand dollars  for work on the new                 
  boat harbor.   The village  also generated  enough money  to                 
                                                                               
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  become partners on a crab vessel.  He added, this summer the                 
  village  anticipates  beginning  construction  on  a  marine                 
  service center.  Mr. Krukoff concluded that  the CDQ program                 
  has enabled  the six  groups in  coastal Alaska  to work  as                 
  "key" participants in the fishing industry.                                  
                                                                               
  FRED  PHILLIP,  BOARD   MEMBER,  COASTAL  VILLAGES   FISHING                 
  COOPERATIVE (CVFC),  testified that CVFC's  program consists                 
  of  creating  employment  opportunities,   developing  local                 
  fisheries infrastructure and participation in the fisheries.                 
  The recruitment program  covers all seventeen villages.   He                 
  added,  there  are  only  minimal  opportunities to  base  a                 
  fisheries economy  on.  The CDQ program  provides a resource                 
  directly available to the CVFC region's villages.  There are                 
  also  opportunities  available  in the  salmon,  herring and                 
  halibut   fisheries.    Mr.   Phillips  explained  that  his                 
  cooperative believes  that ownership and participation  as a                 
  full-fledged company is necessary to meet the CDQ goal.                      
                                                                               
  EUGENE  ASICKSIK, ACTING  PRESIDENT,  NORTON SOUND  ECONOMIC                 
  DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION  (NSEDC), said that  NSEDC consisted                 
  of fifteen  communities.   NSEDC's partner  is Glacier  Fish                 
  Company, Inc. out of  Seattle.  The corporation is  actively                 
  involved in  purchasing herring jointly with  their partner.                 
  The area has  initiated the Norton  Sound Crab Company.   He                 
  concluded  that  NSEDC  has  an  education  and  scholarship                 
  program  and has sent  and trained 138  villagers to Seward,                 
  Alaska, and also  has provided over $100 thousand dollars in                 
  scholarships to local residents.                                             
                                                                               
  RAGNAR  ALSTROM,   BOARD  MEMBER,   YUKON  DELTA   FISHERIES                 
  DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION  (YDFDA), pointed out  that the four                 
  villages  which  make  up  YDFDA   have  an  extremely  high                 
  unemployment  rate.   The  villages consist  of a  young and                 
  exploding  population.  There are no  jobs available in that                 
  area.  The basic  goal of YDFDA  is to provide training  and                 
  then find work.  At  this time, some village people  work on                 
  factory trawlers.   YDFDA has  invested in building  a small                 
  boat fleet which hopes to provide  the heart of the program.                 
  YDFDA's goal is to work  with a processor in the village  of                 
  Emmonak.  The small boat program was begun in May, 1994 with                 
  five boats; it is the intent that ten boats will be  in line                 
  for summer, 1995.                                                            
                                                                               
  Mr. Ohls concluded  that by  the end 1993,  the CDQ  program                 
  accounted for eight percent of the economy in the regions of                 
  western  Alaska.   The  goal of  the  program is  to involve                 
  western Alaskans in all aspects of the CDQ fishing industry.                 
  Mr. Ohls acknowledged the support of the State offering  his                 
  appreciation.                                                                
                                                                               
  Thus  concluded  the  presentation  by  the  Western  Alaska                 
                                                                               
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  Community Development Quota program.                                         
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 95-35, Side 1).                                            
  HOUSE BILL 137                                                               
                                                                               
       "An   Act   making   supplemental  appropriations   for                 
       operating expenses  of state government for fiscal year                 
       1995; and providing for an effective date."                             
  HOUSE BILL 178                                                               
                                                                               
       "An Act making supplemental  and special appropriations                 
       for  the  expenses  of  state  government;  making  and                 
       amending  capital  and  operating  appropriations;  and                 
       providing for an effective date."                                       
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                     
                                                                               
  NANCY SLAGLE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF BUDGET REVIEW, OFFICE OF                 
  MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET,  OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR,  pointed out                 
  that  Section   #22  request   for  medical  assistance   of                 
  pharmaceutical for  the Department's operating  budget short                 
  fall.    The Governor's  request  amount of  $871.7 thousand                 
  dollars was zeroed  out by  the proposed House  supplemental                 
  appropriation.                                                               
                                                                               
  JANET CLARKE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES,  stressed that                 
  $871.7  thousand dollars would  be an  expenditure shortfall                 
  this year.  The Medicaid system works  in such a way, if the                 
  claims are not paid  this year, those claims will  roll into                 
  the next budget.  It will become an automatic shortfall next                 
  year.    She added,  the reduction  would  result in  a like                 
  amount of federal  receipts creating  a $1.7 million  dollar                 
  liability in FY96.                                                           
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  noted that the House  proposed supplemental                 
  appropriation funded Section #23 which would increase Indian                 
  Health Service Medicaid in the amount of $4 million  dollars                 
  as recommended by the Governor.                                              
                                                                               
  KAREN PERDUE,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL                 
  SERVICES,  responded  to  Section  #24,  Governor's  amended                 
  request in  the amount  of $483 thousand  dollars which  was                 
  zeroed out by the House supplemental request.  The requested                 
  amount would cover  the optional  Medicaid services such  as                 
  emergency  adult  dental,   eye  glasses,  and  chiropractic                 
  services.  She suggested creating an alternative system such                 
  as the Oregon Plan as a way to manage costs for the Medicaid                 
  program.                                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Ms. Clarke addressed Section #25, Family and Youth Services,                 
  recommended funding by the Governor's amended request in the                 
  amount  of  $310.6  thousand  dollars,  whereas,  the  House                 
  recommended a funding  level of $80  thousand dollars.   Ms.                 
  Clarke stated that the Department had anticipated requesting                 
  additional  authority for  that spending through  the Budget                 
  and Audit Committee.                                                         
                                                                               
  Ms.  Clarke  advised  that the  Department  would  propose a                 
  substantial increase in  the FY96 budget to include four new                 
  probation officers.                                                          
                                                                               
  Ms. Clarke referenced Section #26, staffing increase for the                 
  client load at McLaughlin Youth Services, Governor's amended                 
  request in the  amount of $580.5 thousand  dollars, whereas,                 
  House recommended funding level of $460  thousand dollars.                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that the House had agreed to the                 
  amount  requested   by  the   Department   to  control   the                 
  Tuberculosis    outbreak    and    conduct   epidemiological                 
  investigations in  the amount  of $342  thousand dollars  as                 
  requested by the Governor in Section #27.                                    
                                                                               
  Ms. Slagle pointed  out Section  #28 for additional  funding                 
  for  API  in  Anchorage;  although  the  Governor's  amended                 
  request was zeroed  out by  the House proposed  supplemental                 
  request.    Without   the  appropriate  match,  the   Alaska                 
  Psychiatric  Hospital  will  receive a  $1.6  million dollar                 
  reduction.    The  federal  match would  have  been  a 50/50                 
  percent.                                                                     
                                                                               
  BRIAN   SAYLOR,   DIRECTOR,  ALASKA   PSYCHIATRIC  HOSPITAL,                 
  ANCHORAGE, provided  the Committee  with a  letter from  the                 
  Alaska Mental  Health Board.   [Attachment #3].   He advised                 
  the prognosis without the fund source shift would be severe.                 
  The  hospital  requires  $45  thousand  dollars per  day  to                 
  operate.  The alternatives  would be to reduce the  scope of                 
  the operations in order to  accommodate the shortfall.   The                 
  most dramatic scenario would be to  lay off 240 employees at                 
  the hospital and curtail operations.  New patients would not                 
  be  admitted after  April  25th.   The  second option  would                 
  require all but court required treatment units to be closed.                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Commissioner Perdue remarked that the course outlined by Dr.                 
  Saylor was  dramatic.   She understood  that the  staff felt                 
  that they had guidance from the Governor's Office to proceed                 
  with a plan of action.  The savings  could not be made up in                 
  a  month.    She  added  that  with  further  research,  the                 
  Department could refine the approach.   Representative Brown                 
  asked who would be impacted by not funding the request.  Dr.                 
                                                                               
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  Saylor reported that  there will  be extensive planning  for                 
  those discharged,  although  community  services  have  been                 
  saturated.  Without additional funds,  the community can not                 
  accept  more  patients.    The  remaining  patients  at  the                 
  hospital  are  at an  intensity  that exceeds  the community                 
  resource possibilities.                                                      
                                                                               
  Commissioner   Perdue  expounded   that   every  state   has                 
  responsibility  to  create some  type  of facility  to house                 
  psychiatric patients.  She agreed that  the role and size of                 
  API   are  important   questions.     Representative   Brown                 
  questioned if providing such a hospital was a constitutional                 
  obligation of the State.   Commissioner Perdue stressed that                 
  the hospital was a core function of the State.                               
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  remarked  that  the   State  does  have  a                 
  responsibility to provide a service,  although the manner in                 
  which  that  service is  provided  could be  contracted out.                 
  Representative Brown asked if  the Department had considered                 
  placing  the   requested  funds  into   community  services.                 
  Commissioner  Perdue  noted that  possibility  had  not been                 
  considered in time for the supplemental funding.                             
                                                                               
  Ms. Clarke  referenced Section  #28, the  Governor's amended                 
  request in the amount of $331 thousand dollars, in which the                 
  House  recommended  zero  funding  to  cover  the  shortfall                 
  interagency receipts for Harborview Development Center.  She                 
  remarked that this request unfunded would be more manageable                 
  than the API request in  Section #27.                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley pointed out that  Section #29, judgments and                 
  claims was  funded at  the same  level as  requested by  the                 
  Governor  and the  House in  the amount  of $410.2  thousand                 
  dollars.                                                                     
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF LABOR                                                          
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  noted that  the House  supplemental request                 
  did  not fund the  $55.6 thousand  dollar proposal  from the                 
  Department  for  the statewide  demographic  information and                 
  analysis, Section #30.                                                       
                                                                               
  ARBE   WILLIAMS,   DIRECTOR,   DIVISION  OF   ADMINISTRATIVE                 
  SERVICES,  DEPARTMENT OF LABOR,  informed the Committee that                 
  without  funding  the  proposed  supplemental,  an  accurate                 
  census  could not occur nor would  there be a base for clear                 
  information   for   calculating   reapportionment.     There                 
  currently exists a six month  window of opportunity provided                 
  by  the  federal government.    The census  bureau  has been                 
  informed of  the possible  legislative attempt to  reinstate                 
  the funding.  She emphasized, with a July, 1995 funding, the                 
  window of opportunity would be closed  and that there is not                 
                                                                               
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  extra  money  in  the  Department's   budget  to  cover  the                 
  necessary costs of the request.                                              
                                                                               
  Ms.  Williams  pointed  out  that  the Department  does  not                 
  anticipate  further incremental  funding  requests for  this                 
  component.                                                                   
                                                                               
  (Tape Change HFC 95-35, Side 2).                                             
                                                                               
  Representative Martin agreed that digitizing maps would save                 
  the State  a lot of money.   He emphasized how  important it                 
  was to keep update census information considering the amount                 
  of time needed to generate the appropriate information.  Co-                 
  Chair Hanley stated that there needs to be a commitment from                 
  the Legislature  to provide the additional funding necessary                 
  in  the  FY96   budget  if   the  supplemental  is   funded.                 
  Representative Martin  noted that the Lt.  Governor's Office                 
  supports  the  funding  and  would  participate  through the                 
  Division of Elections.                                                       
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT                              
                                                                               
  GUY  BELL, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, stated that                 
  Section #31 as  provided by  the Governor's amended  request                 
  would  allocate  $2.5 million  dollars  in order  to restore                 
  television  and newspaper  advertising, although,  the House                 
  zeroed  out  the funding  request.   He  commented  that the                 
  request would restore the  Alaska Tourism Marketing  Council                 
  budget to the FY94 funding level.  He thought that the issue                 
  would  effect  long  term tourism  for  Alaskans.   Co-Chair                 
  Hanley disagreed stating that the decision had been a policy                 
  call of the current Governor.                                                
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF MILITARY AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley referenced Section #32 noting that the House                 
  zeroed out the  Governor's amended request of  $900 thousand                 
  dollars, indicating that when the costs are known, they will                 
  be paid.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Therriault noted that the requested costs are                 
  tied  into  fire  suppression activity.    He  asked if  the                 
  request was a reendowment of the  disaster fund.  Ms. Slagle                 
  explained that all but  $100 thousand of that fund  had been                 
  expended.  If  there are any disasters resulting from spring                 
  flooding between now  and the  end of the  fiscal year,  the                 
  money will not be  available in the Disaster Relief  Fund to                 
  handle the situation.  She added, in the past, when there is                 
  no money available to cover disasters, a lapse fund was used                 
  to  take care  of the  costs until  the supplemental  became                 
  available.    This year  the problem  has resulted  from the                 
                                                                               
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  balances of those funds being placed into the Constitutional                 
  Budget Reserve Fund.                                                         
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES                                              
                                                                               
  NICO  BUS, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL  RESOURCES, pointed  out that  Section                 
  suppression activities in  the fiscal  year ending June  30,                 
  1994.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Mr.  Bus  commented  that  when  the  budget  for  the  fire                 
  suppression  runs  out,  the  option  exists  to  declare  a                 
  disaster.  The  first option would be to  go to the Disaster                 
  Relief Fund.  In 1994, DNR  received $1 million dollars from                 
  that fund.  In 1995, there were no longer funds available in                 
  that fund.                                                                   
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                  
                                                                               
  DEL SMITH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY,                 
  spoke to  Section #36,  community jails, Governor's  amended                 
  request in the amount of  $682.4 thousand dollars, although,                 
  the House zeroed  out the  request.  He  commented that  the                 
  task force made recommendations addressing major concerns on                 
  current  funding   of  jails.    The   communities  involved                 
  participated  with  the  understanding  that  funding  would                 
  improve once the  standards had been established by the task                 
  force.  Many of the community  jails have threatened that if                 
  funding is not granted, they will close now or at the end of                 
  the fiscal year.  Mr. Smith emphasized that prisoner housing                 
  is a State responsibility.                                                   
                                                                               
  Representative  Brown  inquired  if  an  analysis  had  been                 
  performed  of  the cost  effectiveness of  maintaining those                 
  facilities.  Mr. Smith  replied that the State is  liable to                 
  provide sufficient  space.   Currently,  the  prisoners  are                 
  moved  at  the  convenience of  the  Department  rather than                 
  because of  a necessary  demand.   Mr. Smith  stated it  was                 
  beneficial to the  State to continue funding  the facilities                 
  to  house  the  prisoners.    Without the  facilities,  more                 
  prisoners would be transferred.  He added, to date there has                 
  not been a comprehensive study provided.                                     
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf reiterated  that legislation  has                 
  been  passed requiring jail time,  at the same time contract                 
  funding   is   not   being  adequately   provided   to   the                 
  municipalities.  Representative  Parnell reminded  Committee                 
  members that last  year the Legislature funded  the required                 
  amount.  He pointed out that each facility is now requesting                 
  more  funding as  a result  of recommendations  of the  task                 
  force.  He  suggested addressing  that concern  in the  FY96                 
                                                                               
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  operating budget.   Representative  Grussendorf pointed  out                 
  that  most  of the  communities  were  eased into  the  FY95                 
  operating budget  with the  promise of  supplemental funding                 
  made  by   the  task   force.     Mr.   Smith  agreed   with                 
  Representative Grussendorf.                                                  
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  referenced  Section  #37, an  arbitrator's                 
  award  for  the  Alaska State  Troopers,  Governor's amended                 
  request in  the amount  of $200 thousand  dollars, with  the                 
  House   requested   amount   of   $191   thousand   dollars.                 
  Representative Parnell stated that the $191 thousand  dollar                 
  amount would be closer to the real cost due.                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley addressed Section #38 for support and rescue                 
  operations  for  the  civil air  patrol,  Governor's request                 
  amount   of  $156  thousand   dollars,  whereas,  the  House                 
  recommended  amount was $23 thousand dollars.   He noted the                 
  amount  of proposed  funding by  the  House would  cover the                 
  insurance costs for the civil air patrol.                                    
                                                                               
  Co-Chair  Hanley  pointed  out  that the  House  recommended                 
  providing the concealed weapons fiscal note in the amount of                 
  half that requested by the Governor.  Representative Parnell                 
  stated that the number of positions hired has been less than                 
  anticipated.                                                                 
                                                                               
  KEN BISCHOFF, DIRECTOR, DIVISION OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC  SAFETY, stated  that the  supplemental                 
  request was based on receipt  of forty applications per day.                 
  During the past few months, the Department has received less                 
  than thirty applications per day.                                            
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  noted that the House  proposed supplemental                 
  request  had  fully funded  the Narco  Task Force  switch in                 
  funds in order to  offset the shortfall of seized  assets in                 
  the amount of $115 thousand dollars.                                         
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley referenced Section #66  and #67 stating that                 
  the House zeroed out the  supplemental funding request.   He                 
  stated that those  requests could be  addressed in the  FY96                 
  operating budget.   Mr. Smith  pointed out that  the upgrade                 
  would provide better  fire and building codes  for the Homer                 
  and North Slope  Borough jail.  Co-Chair  Hanley interjected                 
  that those codes  have not been met for many  years and that                 
  the  increment  could  wait  until   the  new  fiscal  year.                 
  Representative  Brown  clarified that  both  facilities were                 
  owned by the local municipalities.                                           
                                                                               
  (Tape Change, HFC 95-36, Side 1).                                            
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Ms.  Slagle pointed  out  Section  #41,  Governor's  amended                 
  request  in the  amount of  $2.17 million  dollars had  been                 
  reduced by  the House  proposed supplemental  request to  $2                 
  million dollars for snow removal  for highways and aviation.                 
  Co-Chair Hanley  noted suggestions made by  the subcommittee                 
  to  incorporate  Sections #43  and  #48, spring  maintenance                 
  program.                                                                     
                                                                               
  RON  LIND, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE  SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND  PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                 
  commented that it would help to  have a guarantee that funds                 
  not used  for snow  removal could  then be  used for  spring                 
  maintenance.                                                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley remarked that Sections #28 - #33 were funded                 
  at the  Governor's recommended  level and  carry over  funds                 
  could be used in Section #34.  He added, Section #49 and #50                 
  were  zeroed  out  by  the  House supplemental  request  for                 
  litigation costs.  Mr. Lind stated that there currently is a                 
  bill which will provide "ratification" for these type costs,                 
  rather than an appropriation.   Ms. Slagle advised that  the                 
  expenditures  have been  made by the  Department of  Law and                 
  that the Legislature's approval will  be required to release                 
  funds.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative Grussendorf spoke to Section #52,  Governor's                 
  amended request in  the amount  of $739.8 thousand  dollars,                 
  whereas,  the House  proposed funding  was zeroed  out.   He                 
  emphasized that  the Alaska Marine  Highway is a  "road" for                 
  all Southeastern communities.                                                
                                                                               
  GARY  HAYDEN,   SYSTEM  DIRECTOR,  MARINE   HIGHWAY  SYSTEM,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC FACILITIES, reported                 
  that the supplemental  request would cover costs  related to                 
  the  first  eight  months  of  the  fiscal  year.   Revenues                 
  collected last  year were  down $500  thousand dollars  from                 
  sales.   Ridership has  been down  this winter.   Additional                 
  service  on  the  La  Conte was  provided  in  December  and                 
  February.  He stressed that the  result of not providing the                 
  supplemental funding request  will be less weeks  of service                 
  during May and June.  Representative Grussendorf pointed out                 
  that revenue would be lost by not having all vessels running                 
  during the tourist season.                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Foster  understood that  the $700  thousand dollars                 
  was expended and removed from a reserve account.  Mr. Hayden                 
  explained at the end  of the fiscal  year, there will be  no                 
  balance in the reserve  account.  The Department will  be in                 
  deficit  spending  without  the  supplemental.    Discussion                 
  followed  between  Representative  Foster  and  Mr.   Hayden                 
  regarding the reserve account.                                               
                                                                               
                                                                               
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  Co-Chair  Hanley asked  how the  service for  FY96  would be                 
  affected without the  allocation of  the supplemental.   Mr.                 
  Hayden replied  that service  will be  reduced in  Southeast                 
  Alaska  to  290  days  of  service  for the  entire  year.                   
  Representative Navarre pointed  out that  this would be  the                 
  worst time of year to delay ferry scheduling.                                
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                 
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley  explained that  Sections #53  and #54  were                 
  zeroed out by  the House supplemental funding.   Section #53                 
  would have extended the set-aside for rural development mini                 
  grant  program;   Section  #54   would   have  provided   an                 
  organizational grant for the City of Egegik.                                 
                                                                               
  Ms.  Slagle  stated  that in  the  past,  the organizational                 
  grants  were  switched  from  the  operating budget  to  the                 
  capital  budget.  The  Department of Law  noted that Section                 
  not receive the needed funding  last year and recipients can                 
  not wait for the FY96 operating budget.                                      
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS                                                    
                                                                               
  Representative    Mulder,    Chair   of    the   Corrections                 
  Subcommittee, referenced Section  #55.  The switch  in funds                 
  would reflect  program receipt shortfall-prisoner  phones at                 
  the Cook Inlet Pre Trial.  The Governor's amended request in                 
  the amount of  $200 thousand dollars  was zeroed out by  the                 
  House proposed supplemental budget.                                          
  Representative  Brown discussed  that  the  back-up for  the                 
  request  had resulted  from a  federal court decision.   She                 
  stated that  it was  not the  fault of  the Department,  but                 
  resulted  from the Alaska Public Utilities Commission (APUC)                 
  decision  occurring at the federal court  level.  Ms. Slagle                 
  agreed that the  Department has  been actively pursuing  the                 
  request.  Due  to APUC and ramifications encountered in that                 
  situation, it was not implemented.                                           
                                                                               
  JERRY   SHRINER,   SPECIAL   ASSISTANT,    OFFICE   OF   THE                 
  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF  CORRECTIONS,   repeated  that                 
  negotiations had been in process for  many years.  He noted,                 
  they currently are complete.                                                 
                                                                               
  Representative  Mulder  referenced  Section #56,  Governor's                 
  amended  request to  facilitate  a transfer  component  from                 
  Public Safety  for Community  Jails in  the amount  of $39.3                 
  thousand dollars which was zeroed out by  the House proposed                 
  supplemental request.                                                        
                                                                               
  Section #57, a proposed amount  to cover the Cleary contempt                 
  of court fines  in the amount  of $750 thousand dollars  was                 
                                                                               
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  fully  funded by  the House  proposed  supplemental funding.                 
  Representative  Martin stated that  the Legislature  had not                 
  been in contempt of court.  He recommended that the fee  not                 
  be paid.  Representative Navarre  stated that the Department                 
  was held  in contempt of  court because the  Legislature had                 
  not adequately funded the needs of the Department.                           
                                                                               
  Representative Mulder  stated that  Section #58,  Governor's                 
  amended   request  amount  of   $457  thousand  dollars  for                 
  personnel legal actions was zeroed out by the House proposed                 
  supplemental funding.    He added, once the final  award had                 
  been made, the funding would be provided.                                    
                                                                               
  UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                         
                                                                               
  Representative  Martin,  Subcommittee  Chair,   stated  that                 
  Section #59,  Governor's amended  request in  the amount  of                 
  $130  thousand dollars for  snow and ice  removal was zeroed                 
  out by the House proposed supplemental.                                      
                                                                               
  WENDY  REDMAN,  VICE  PRESIDENT  FOR  UNIVERSITY  RELATIONS,                 
  UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA, pointed out that the University rarely                 
  requests supplemental funding except for  snow removal.  She                 
  voiced her surprise and confusion in the declined funding.                   
                                                                               
  Ms. Redman  addressed Sections #68  & #69 for  the Butrovich                 
  Building  panel removal and replacement.  She noted that the                 
  Governor's  requested  amounts had  been  zeroed out  by the                 
  House proposed supplemental funding.   She asserted that the                 
  building  is  not finished  and now  it  is on  the deferred                 
  maintenance  list.   The  money  must  be "in  hand"  before                 
  ordering the panels  in a  timely fashion so  they could  be                 
  placed this building season.   To arrive on time,  they must                 
  be ordered by the middle of March.                                           
                                                                               
  Representative Brown questioned  how much additional funding                 
  would be needed to make the building usable.  Representative                 
  Therriault interjected that the  paneling should be replaced                 
  this   year    before   that   damage    causes   additional                 
  deterioration.                                                               
                                                                               
  (Tape HFC 95-36, Side 2).                                                    
                                                                               
  Following discussion of Committee members regarding the snow                 
  removal  concern,   Representative  Kohring  asked   if  the                 
  individual sections of panel could  create a safety concern.                 
  Ms. Redman replied  that the panels  are a major concern  as                 
  they are  falling off the sides of the building.  The panels                 
  were made defectively, and have since been corroding out  of                 
  the nuts keeping them in tact.                                               
                                                                               
  REPRESENTATIVE JOHN DAVIES commented that  one of the panels                 
                                                                               
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  had fallen which caused injury to  a maintenance worker.  He                 
  added that in order  to avoid rainfall from coming  into the                 
  building, the top  row of panels  were left on the  building                 
  creating continual hazards.                                                  
  DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-Chair Hanley referenced  Section #64, Governor's  amended                 
  request for  senior housing to  match an  Housing and  Urban                 
  Development  (HUD) allocation level  for the  Alaska Housing                 
  Finance Corporation  (AHFC) in  the amount  of $1.8  million                 
  dollars.  This amount  was zeroed out by the  House proposed                 
  supplemental funding.  Ms. Slagle explained that  there is a                 
  timing  constraint  for AHFC  on  the availability  of those                 
  funds.  That match money is  required for an ongoing project                 
  in  Barrow  and  Saxman.   The  federal  money  will not  be                 
  available  for  one year.   Co-Chair  Hanley stated  that $8                 
  million dollars had been funded for the project last year.                   
                                                                               
  BOB BARATKO, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                 
  DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE,  explained that  AHFC had based  that                 
  request on an  estimate provided by HUD.   HUD did  not have                 
  it's final numbers for the State  until after the budget was                 
  approved for AHFC.  After the $8.2 million dollar budget was                 
  approved,  HUD  refined the  numbers  and  came up  with  an                 
  additional funding that the State would  need to provide the                 
  match.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Representative Martin recommended  the request be a  part of                 
  the FY96 Capital Budget.  Mr. Baratko advised that the funds                 
  were needed now in order to match funding time, stating that                 
  it  would  take   time  to   allow  for  the   construction.                 
  Representative  Brown  advised  that  AHFC  was  under   the                 
  Executive Budget Act  and that they should  receive approval                 
  to access federal  dollars.  She  urged that the request  be                 
  considered.  Representative Kohring supported  the intent of                 
  AHFC and funding that section.                                               
                                                                               
  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                  
                                                                               
  Ms.  Slagle  referenced  Section   #65,  Governor's  amended                 
  request in the amount  of $41.6 thousand dollars to  replace                 
  the  roof at  Civil Air  Patrol (CAP)  Merril Field  hangar.                 
  Funding  had  been   zeroed  out   by  the  House   proposed                 
  supplemental request.    Representative Brown  asked if  the                 
  State owned the  space or if CAP  leased the facility.   Ms.                 
  Slagle replied that  CAP owned the facility, and pointed out                 
  that there were safety hazards by not providing the work.                    
  ADJOURNMENT                                                                  
                                                                               
  The meeting adjourned at 5:05 P.M.                                           

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